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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="../assets/xml/rss.xsl" media="all"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>Learning Latvian (Posts about pronouns)</title><link>http://learninglatvian.rozentali.com/</link><description></description><atom:link href="http://learninglatvian.rozentali.com/categories/pronouns.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"></atom:link><language>en</language><copyright>Contents © 2021 &lt;a href="mailto:cori.rozentale@gmail.com"&gt;Cori Rozentāle&lt;/a&gt; </copyright><lastBuildDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2021 23:00:24 GMT</lastBuildDate><generator>Nikola (getnikola.com)</generator><docs>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss</docs><item><title>Šis un Tas: Demonstrating Demonstratives</title><link>http://learninglatvian.rozentali.com/posts/2011/05/sis-un-tas-demonstrating-demonstratives/</link><dc:creator>Cori Rozentāle</dc:creator><description>&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;For fast reference, you can also go to Charts to look at just the
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&lt;h3&gt;What are Demonstratives?&lt;/h3&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Demonstratives are a type of word which refer to an object that is near or
far in relation to the speaker.&lt;/strong&gt; The distance can be literal or figurative.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I find it's pretty easy to work with demonstratives in Latvian. &lt;strong&gt;Generally,
the rules for Latvian demonstratives are the same as in English.&lt;/strong&gt; I'll talk a
bit about demonstratives and how they're used because if you've never really
thought about them before, well, it can be a little confusing to get started.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We use demonstratives all the time. When you refer to &lt;em&gt;this&lt;/em&gt; book or &lt;em&gt;these&lt;/em&gt;
darn cats on your desk, you're talking about objects (or animals) that are
very close to you. Similarly, when referring to &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt; tree or &lt;em&gt;those&lt;/em&gt;
buildings, you're discussing objects that are far from you.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Demonstratives also can reference items being spoken about&lt;/strong&gt; , which is how
we use "this" or "these" in sentences to reference previous statements or
clauses. These are called "entities of discourse" and the use of "these" and
"this" in this very sentence are examples of its usage.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Latvian demonstratives work generally the same way but with the added
complexity of the case and gender system. Šis/šī and tas/tā are declined a
little differently from the standard, but when you read the chart, you'll see
similarities to the normal endings that will help you figure out what is what.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h3&gt;A demonstrative can function like an adjective or a pronoun.&lt;/h3&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;A demonstrative adjective modifies a noun and must agree in number, gender
and case.&lt;/strong&gt; This can also be called a &lt;em&gt;determiner&lt;/em&gt; because it &lt;em&gt;determines&lt;/em&gt;
which object you are referencing specifically.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Šis kaķis sēž uz galda. -- This cat sits (is sitting) on the table.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Man garšo tās zemenes. -- I like those strawberries.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;A demonstrative pronoun replaces a noun and must fulfill the same number,
gender and case.&lt;/strong&gt; This is also called a &lt;em&gt;spatial adjective&lt;/em&gt; because it can
help determine where the object is that you are referencing.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Interestingly, when translating into English, it often makes sense to
translate &lt;em&gt;tas/tā&lt;/em&gt; as &lt;em&gt;it&lt;/em&gt; instead of &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt;. This is due to English's little
idiosyncrasies with "it" usage so be aware that's a potential translation
path. Since Latvian doesn't have a neuter gender or "it", it can make sense to
do the opposite as well -- translate an "it" as a "that" when translating from
English. It depends on context.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When there is no noun for the demonstratives to agree with, they need to stand
on their own and act like pronouns. Let's take a look:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Kaķis to atrada zem galda. -- The cat found that under the table.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is an example where, "The cat found it under the table" is also a valid
translation. &lt;em&gt;It&lt;/em&gt; is equivalent to &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt; in this case, so it works either
way.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h3&gt;Types of Demonstratives&lt;/h3&gt;
&lt;h4&gt;Šis un šī&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For any type of &lt;strong&gt;noun that is literally or figuratively close to the
&lt;em&gt;speaker&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; , we use &lt;strong&gt;šis&lt;/strong&gt; for masculine nouns and &lt;strong&gt;šī&lt;/strong&gt; for feminine
nouns.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Šis and šī seem to be generally reserved for things being held or possessed
by the speaker&lt;/strong&gt; or, in the case of large things like cars, that &lt;strong&gt;are
immediately next to the speaker.&lt;/strong&gt; Often the &lt;em&gt;nearest&lt;/em&gt; thing being referenced
will be referred to with šis/šī, while everything else gets tas/tā. It is not
as flexible as tas and tā and the distance it refers to is very small.
&lt;strong&gt;Anything within arm 's length works well with šis/šī.&lt;/strong&gt; Don't be surprised
if the object gets touched while you're talking about it!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Always keep in mind with šis and šī is that the singular genitive has two
possible options.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h3&gt;Šis un Šī - This&lt;/h3&gt;
&lt;p&gt;| vsk. |  | dsk.&lt;br&gt;
| masc. | fem. |  | masc. | fem.&lt;br&gt;
Kas? | šis | šī |  | šie | šīs&lt;br&gt;
Kā? | šā, šī | šās, šīs |  | šo | šo&lt;br&gt;
Kam? | šim | šai |  | šiem | šīm&lt;br&gt;
Ko? | šo | šo |  | šos | šīs&lt;br&gt;
Ar ko? | ar šo | ar šo |  | ar šiem | ar šīm&lt;br&gt;
Kur? | šājā | šājā |  | šajos | šajās&lt;br&gt;
| šai | šai |  | šais | šais&lt;br&gt;
| šinī | šinī |  | šinīs | šinīs  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h4&gt;Tas un Tā&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Tas and tā are used for nouns that are literally or figuratively &lt;em&gt;far away&lt;/em&gt;
from the speaker&lt;/strong&gt;. Use &lt;strong&gt;tas&lt;/strong&gt; for masculine and &lt;strong&gt;tā&lt;/strong&gt; for feminine nouns.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Tas and tā tend to be very flexible, at least in my experience. They can be
used for anything nearby or somewhat far away, so the distance is more
ambiguous. Unlike with šis, many objects can be considered "tas" and often
something I would consider a "this" in English is a "that" in Latvian. A book
sitting on the corner of my desk? Tā. The apple tree in my front yard? Tas.
Figure &lt;strong&gt;if you can point at it, it 's probably far enough away to be a tas or
a tā.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Of course, this is also dependent on the speaker's preferences and biases.
Still, it's safe to use tas or tā for any object not in your hands or right
next to you, so if you're unsure, err on the side of tas/tā.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h3&gt;Tas un Tā - That&lt;/h3&gt;
&lt;p&gt;| vsk. |  | dsk.&lt;br&gt;
| masc. | fem. |  | masc. | fem.&lt;br&gt;
Kas? | tas | tā |  | tie | tās&lt;br&gt;
Kā? | tā | tās |  | to | to&lt;br&gt;
Kam? | tam | tai |  | tiem | tām&lt;br&gt;
Ko? | to | to |  | tos | tās&lt;br&gt;
Ar ko? | ar to | ar to |  | ar tiem | ar tām&lt;br&gt;
Kur? | tajā | tajā |  | tajos | tajās&lt;br&gt;
| tai | tai |  | tais | tais&lt;br&gt;
| tanī | tanī |  | tanīs | tanīs  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h4&gt;Viņš un Viņa&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now, here is an odd type. I know, I know. Viņš and viņa are already pronouns
you're familiar with! Latvian has a provision for &lt;strong&gt;referencing things that
are &lt;em&gt;very far away&lt;/em&gt; from the speaker&lt;/strong&gt; and borrows viņš and viņa to do it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;English actually has an archaic form that handles this provision as well -
&lt;em&gt;yon&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;yonder&lt;/em&gt;. I still hear &lt;em&gt;yonder&lt;/em&gt; in colloquial speech where I live
and use it myself, for that matter! It's quite popular in the Southern
dialects and colloquially used in rural Western dialects here in America.
Whether it's used outside the US at all, I don't really know. Wikipedia
implies that it's become idiosyncratic to dialects of American English.
Anyway…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Imagine for a moment that you're on the banks of the Daugava. (If you've never
been there, just check out my header image, taken from one coast.) You can
point to Vecrīga on the other coast, sure, but if I were to tell you that
Vecrīga is "on that side" without you seeing the image, you may not realize
just how far I mean. "That" is too ambiguous in distance.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Enter viņš and viņa. I can say "Vecrīga ir viņā krastā" which means, "Vecrīga
is on the far coast" or "Vecrīga is on yonder coast" without being ambiguous
about it being really far.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Viņš and viņa are also used for time in a general fashion when referring to
distant times far from your current time, whether literally or figuratively.
If it feels like summer was forever ago, you could use "viņā vasarā". "A long
time ago" is a perfect opportunity to use viņš.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There's also a caveat with the viņš/viņa construction. This always takes the
locative, so it cannot be used to directly reference the object itself, only
its location.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Viņš and viņa are included on the full chart for completeness and are declined
normally.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h4&gt;Šāds un Šāda, Tāds un Tāda&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Similar to the related question words, &lt;em&gt;kāds&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;kāda&lt;/em&gt; , which ask " &lt;em&gt;What
kind of?&lt;/em&gt; ", these demonstratives identify the answer as " &lt;em&gt;this kind of&lt;/em&gt; " or
" &lt;em&gt;that kind of&lt;/em&gt; ". The traditional reply to kāds is tāds, but it's not
required that you use it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Unlike šis, šī, tas and tā, which are irregularly declined, both šāds/šāda and
tāds/tāda are declined as regular, indefinite adjectives. I have included them
on the full chart for completeness.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h4&gt;Locative Tricks&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The locative is where it can get a little tricky. &lt;strong&gt;There are &lt;em&gt;three&lt;/em&gt; ways you
can decline both šis/šī and tas/tā in the locative! Each of them is correct.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How do you know which one to use? &lt;strong&gt;Use the one that sounds good or fits the
best.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;All three can be used interchangeably, which offers Latvians a lot of
flexibility and they definitely take advantage of this in poetry and song. So,
don't just memorize one of each and forget the other two -- you don't want to
miss out!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description><category>adjectives</category><category>demonstratives</category><category>grammar</category><category>pronouns</category><guid>http://learninglatvian.rozentali.com/posts/2011/05/sis-un-tas-demonstrating-demonstratives/</guid><pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 13:27:32 GMT</pubDate></item></channel></rss>